Dream Maker Adriana Andelkovic - BEYOND LOGIC. Doing the things that make no sense, can lead to magic.

Oh my heart, get ready for this heartwarming and thought-provoking chat with Adriana Andelkovic, the powerhouse behind Mickey Rose Kids Fashion and a Psychic Business and Mindset Mentor. 

One of the moments that truly struck a chord with me was when Adriana shared her secret to success: following the unconventional path that speaks to your heart, even if it seems crazy to everyone else. This conversation is like a mirror, reflecting on the quality of our lives, the decisions we make, and our ongoing journey to craft lives and businesses that truly light us up and nourish our souls.

We dive deep into the power of intention and focus when chasing our dreams, learning to embrace confusion as a stepping stone for growth, and finding solace amidst life's uncertainties. Trusting in the process and the wisdom that surrounds us is key, as is summoning the courage to grasp unexpected opportunities. And of course, we tackle the ever-present challenges of fear and uncertainty, while also reveling in the joy and creative energy that come from pursuing multiple passion projects.

This episode of the Dream Makers podcast is like a beacon calling us to follow our hearts and make those brave decisions, even when they seem utterly bonkers to everyone else—including ourselves at times. It's about honing our discernment skills, distinguishing between fear-driven impulses and the whispers of our authentic selves. But above all, it's about taking action, trusting in the unfolding journey, and embracing the growth and alignment it brings.

So, dive into this conversation now and let it spark a fire of courage and clarity within you. May it inspire you to make those daring decisions that honor your heart and steer you toward a life of true fulfillment.

x CB

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Transcript

Speaker: 1:04

It's always a bit of a ride. All righty, let's do this. Welcome everybody to another Dream Makers podcast, it's CV here. I'm here with Adriana at, oh my God. Welcome everybody. This is exactly what I did last time on the podcast. I don't know what it is about you and your beautiful name, but I put this pressure on myself. Adriana loves. We've already done a podcast together. I think it was about a year and a half ago and the intro probably sounds exactly like this. But Adriana, my dear, welcome back to the podcast. How are you, babe? so much for having me, best intro ever. And Delkevich, and Delkevich, yeah, Can be found on Instagram at Adriana Loves. Adriana is a a psychic business mentor. How does that make, just talk, talk a little bit about that. Who is

Speaker 3: 1:56

that? So yes, it's a psychic business mentor. I love it. I really, what's funny last time we spoke, I was really, I wasn't using the psychic thing and I was like, you know what, let's just sit with the, the business coaching, and then the more and more I uncovered about me and the more and more I uncovered about what I actually do, I was like, wow, my psychic gifts and my ability to see what's going on for people was actually one of my. Biggest blessings and was one of the biggest things that I was utilizing with clients. So we retracted in their psychic business mentoring. And that means that we get to look at the business. We get to look at the energetics. We get to look at all that fun stuff.

Speaker: 2:37

Yeah. Love it, babe. And actually I had a psychic. business mentoring session last night with another friend of mine, Elle Still, which was amazing. So I think it's such a gift. What I love and what I really want to honor in you is just bringing your gifts to the table in a way that can be really valuable and really helpful for people. Just honoring the, like the evolution of you, the growth of you, dropping more into This is who I am. Because I think like the first time I ever came across you, we, we have like a, a connection. I think a mutual friend, Carlo Cirillo. And I feel like the first time I even came across you online, you were pulling cards. Did you start, is that kind of where you started then evolved into, I know you had a product based business, which I really want to talk about today, but. That's where you started in the kind of guidance and then went into business mentoring. And now you're coming back into the fullness of you, right? Yeah. So it's actually

Speaker 3: 3:36

a full circle moment, really, it was that, that's how it all began. I was pulling cards online and I was doing energy sessions, psychic sessions, blah, blah, blah, all of that. And then I did some life coaching and then I was like, Oh, I'm actually a really good business coach. So I was like, you know what? I'm not going to do any of the psychic work anymore. I'm a business coach. And then full circle moment. Hello, Adriana. You are both. I

Speaker: 4:02

love it so much. Thank you, babe. This is the, it used to be called the up level podcast, and I think that's what it was when we had our chat last, but it's evolved into the Dream Makers podcast. So one of the things that I love most about what we're doing here is. Activating dreamers into dream makers. So people who have an idea, a dream, a vision, something that they want to bring into reality to help them get past fear and self doubt and all the stories and help them actually get into action, create momentum to bring into reality. And I know that so much of the work that you do helps people do that. And one of the things that. I think sits at the core of everything I've ever created is helping people get to the heart of what is essential for them and, and bring their full self to what it is they're creating. I love the a, your, it's just more of me, I'm going to bring more of me to what I do. So I don't know anything you want to share around your own process around creating maybe what we think people need and then having the courage because I think we create our own sense of certainty or sureness within ourself, but the courage to bring all of you to the table. What do you want to share around that babe?

Speaker 3: 5:16

Being okay to get it wrong. I think for so many people, there's this big feeling of and you probably see this or can relate to this in your own way. Oh my gosh, I have to get it right the first time. Like just then, in like the 30 seconds I was like, I was this and then I was this, and then I was this and now I'm this. And being okay with that. And. So many people are like, but I have to get it right. Or we change too fast. So I'm all about contradictions. So you'll hear me say contradictions a thousand times that we either go back one extreme to the other. So we're either changing too fast. We're not letting anything like. Settle and really trying it on, or we're not changing or doing anything at all because we're so scared of getting it wrong or needing to change our mind.

Speaker: 6:03

Yeah,

Speaker 3: 6:04

babe.

Speaker: 6:04

Can you just tell us a little bit about your experience? I'm going the last, say, I'm just going to ballpark at 12 months since we're on a call together, but it might've been 18. I'll put in the bottom of the show notes, the other episode with Adriana that you can go back and listen to tell us a little bit about your evolution and how you have changed because I saw online the other day, which I'm very excited about is that. Yeah. Yeah. And I knew this about you, you used to have a product based business, then you evolved into this online service, and now you're evolving, you're doing both, you have this online service and you have a product based business. That's the external change, right? But tell me what, what's been happening for you, tell us over the last 12 months whatever story of like growth and evolution, like what's been there for

Speaker 3: 6:54

you. I think, my motto has been like, when things are crazy, why not make it crazier and starting another business? But very, very excited about that, actually. So I guess the biggest thing I would say that I've started sharing more about online that I think is helpful for people to hear, cause we hear so much of the things that are working for people and this last 12 months has been. Challenging. So we actually were living in a house with mold. And if anyone's really with mold illness, it is extremely debilitating and very, very serious. And we didn't know what was going on. And our limbs were aching and we're really, really tired. I had past history of chronic illness. So a lot of those things were flaring up and we'd started talking about maybe we want to start a family and we were like, Oh, We can't there is something going on. So long story short, we ended up getting some health tests done. And the guy was like, mate, you're the guys living in mold. And we sent him some photos and he was like, get out of there. Get out like tomorrow. So we looked for a house and we were in the middle of everything. Those moments in life, you're just like. What is even going on? We just found out this was happening. Our businesses, both my partners and I requiring a lot of attention from us. We were in the middle of really big personal transitions, then health is falling down and okay, we need to really sit with this. So we got. Intentional as, as fuck, really, we got really, really intentional and we sat down and when we're together, we're really strong force. And we said, let's get really serious about where we want to go and where we want to take this and my dad, who I think I talked about last time, who passed away many, many years ago now, when I was 18 years old, and I said to him, please make this easy. Make this obvious. Yeah. Life has been fucking hard. Please make this obvious. And I remember just, it gives me goosebumps like sitting there on the couch that afternoon and just being like, we can't, we can't take a lot more. And we essentially, and in the middle of all of this too, I'm questioning the business. I'm like, do I wanna be more of a psychic person? Do I wanna stick to business? Do I wanna open this product based thing? So I'm in the middle of a lot of questioning and my mentor said to me. Confusion is the most precious place a human can be in. Confusion is powerful. And I said, she said that to me and I wanted to break her in half, but I also was so glad she said that I was like, okay, this confusion is a gift. I'm sorry, traveling forward a little bit. We, I call on my dad for the help. We, the next day, do a FaceTime inspection of this house on the sunny coast, about four and a half hours from where we're living. We do the FaceTime inspection. Two hours later, we get a phone call of them being like, Hey, could you provide one more document, self employed life. We did that. And then she's great. And now Elena calls us back. You got the house. And we were like, I was like to my dad, all right, I wanted it to be easy, but make this fast. So we drive down the next day and we get to the house. We said to her, please, can we just see it first? We're moving state. We're really going through a lot. Can we just see it before we sign? She said, sure. We get to the house. We have a look around and on the back, there's this, the meter box, where, you open up the meter box in there and there's this sticker on the meter box. And. Greg, my partner, points to it and says, look at this. And it says my dad's name,

Speaker: 10:32

Mick. No. No. Wow. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3: 10:38

Alright. No, that's why I was like, you've got to be shitting me. And I looked at Greg, my eyes welled up, and I was just like, okay, alright, let's do this. And that was a real pivotal moment for us. We packed up, we moved states, and we said yes to what was next after, six months of real deep confusion and real deep. Almost suffering, really. So yeah,

Speaker: 11:04

that's wild. Can you tell us a little bit more about being in that place of confusion and it being a gift? What I heard in that was you asking yourself so many powerful and clarifying questions. So for anyone who is feeling in this state of what in the actual hell is going on right now, which PS I am in conversation with so many people, right? Whether it's via podcast or in the dream stream, while people are mentoring on Instagram, the land, a lot of things have been moving and shifting and changing for people. So I think across the board, there's a fair bit of, oh my God, what in the heck is happening? And there are people in this transition phase, right? But transition is also confusion. So can you talk a little bit To that and any, any suggestions you have for people when they're in the depth of that.

Speaker 3: 11:58

Hmm. My amazing mentor, Emma, she said to me, she's Adriana, the confusion, how can you just see this as like this portal of discomfort where you just get to ask, like you literally just said, you gave me goosebumps, powerful questions. So it was this real moment, I think for me, like personally in the confusion, I'm, I'm like everyone else. I don't always do well there, banging my head against the wall a little bit. And I think the empowering view on it was, okay, I get to ask really powerful questions and I get to hear some powerful answers. I get to hear some stuff that's really hard and maybe even that I don't want to hear, and I get to hear some stuff that's really comforting. I get to sift through some noise. And I get to hear some actual truths, okay, how can I be okay in this void? How can I be okay and rebuild my relationship with what I make this part of my life mean? Because it's not going anywhere. It'll happen now and it'll happen again. It's inevitable. So something I really looked at was rebuilding the relationship with discomfort or the void or confusion because a lot of the time I think our relationship with it is what's actually Making us fall behind or get really angry at it.

Speaker: 13:16

That's really powerful. And when you talk about these moments, you can ask yourself powerful questions and hear powerful answers. I'll put two questions that are coming through around this. One is, do you feel. As someone who, who has honed psychic gifts, that you have a greater sense of clarity, or it's more about a greater sense of trust in what you hear. That's question one. Let's go there.

Speaker 3: 13:42

Question one. Ah, it's a mess. This is my dissection of what I reckon happens. In one section, it's easier because my channel is quite clear. However, I won't pretend that even as a psychic, when I can get clarity for someone else, it doesn't always mean on me it's as clear because my emotions are in the way, my fears are in the way, my like, will we start making money and will we have a house and all these things get in the way, just like others. Other people, so yes, and absolutely not,

Speaker 2: 14:15

but

Speaker 3: 14:16

I will say, you said you had a psychic business session, yesterday or whatever, for me, having the psychic mentor in my pocket at the time, just people have with me was huge because she was reflecting the stuff to me that I just could not see, or I couldn't land on. So her questioning is actually really,

Speaker: 14:35

really powerful. I love that. And I can see how valuable it is. So much of the work that I do is, is helping people to really trust in themselves, in their heart, in their own wisdom, in the moment, in the inspiration, in the idea, like as it's coming through. And it also is helpful to have someone to reflect it back to you. I think, I think both can be true. Do you know what I mean? It's not like I really don't really encourage people to put their. Oh, gosh, what's the right word? Agency and sovereignty and get all the answers from someone outside of them. I really encourage people to really start to build trust in how they feel within their body, right? And making decisions based on that and listening to, listening to what comes through or taking action on the ideas and building trust in themselves. But I, yeah, I also love having support crew. I also love having people out there who are like, yeah, let's talk about this. Let's, let's bounce ideas around this and also have someone who can reflect back what you're thinking. It does help to affirm what's happening. I love that a hundred million percent. And so then the other question that came up when you were talking about your experience is asking these powerful questions, hearing some powerful answers, some things that you didn't want to hear, and you shared a little bit about your kind of biggest fears. Are you willing to share with us in the depth? In the depth of what was happening just in the last 12 months. We could look at a 3 year period, a 5 year period, a 10 year period, and people like all of these things have been happening, but we can just say, we can just look back at our experiences over the last 12 months. And I think you would be like me that these experiences are happening for us. There's always something in it for us to learn or grow or understand something different or heal something to be able to. Move to where we want to go, right? Can you tell me if you're willing to share the in the depths of the really tricky stuff? What were some of your biggest fears that were coming up for you? I remember

Speaker 3: 16:42

turning to Greg one day, and this is in our last house actually, and just bawling my eyes out and saying to him, But what if I never get better? What if I actually never fucking get better? What if this never changes? And you know I'd been unwell for 10 years by that point with different things. And I just remember looking at him so sincerely in his eyes and just Just bawling. And I think these are the moments no one gets to see. And these are the moments that no one knows the depth of what you're holding. And it felt so true for me in that moment. That fear in my belly, I remember it now talking about it. It makes me feel, oh, it was so real of What if it never gets better and I remember him reflecting to me the next day, he said, that look in your eyes broke me because I know you and I know when you're just superficially scared and still brings me to tears is and I know when you're really scared and,

Speaker 2: 17:41

you

Speaker 3: 17:42

know, it's my partner. I've been together for a long time and I said to him. Yeah, in that moment, I was really fucking scared and I want to be a mom and I want to have a successful business, but if the health doesn't turn its ship around. None of that's there. And of course, in your more sane moments, you're going to get the support, you're going to work through it. But in the depth of that fear, nothing quite like it.

Speaker: 18:08

It's thank you for sharing that way. It's so hardcore sometimes. And I feel and people talk about this a lot on socials now. It's we don't always see all the dimensions. I try as best as I can just to like, This is where I'm at right now, like share share in authenticity. But I think it's just really powerful for people to hear the depths of the pain that is there for people and that we can have those moments and still move out the other side of that, and, and you share that so beautifully because I reckon there is a difference between I think you said the word superficial fears or I think fears that we have that we're just telling ourselves bullshit, right? And I'm not good enough or maybe this won't work or whatever stories we have that are slowing us down versus right at the core of me, I do have a belief that this I'm fucking scared about this thing. And you know the difference because you are, you're brought to your knees by that kind of fear. Oh, gives me goosebumps. A hundred percent. Yeah. You're brought to your fucking knees from that time. It's different. Hmm. And so how, like when you've had those moments, because there's so much in you said, if I don't have my health. Then there's really nothing, all of the things that I want the vision. I hold for my business to have a family to, to live the life that I want to have and feel fulfilled and aligned and sustained. I need to have my health. I feel like that's a big conversation. I'm loving having people having with people in the DreamMakers world because it's like, there's so many. So much around the energy with which we bring to everything that we do. And, and it's really hard to be, feel grounded and empowered and excited about where I'm going and be a magnet to opportunities and people coming in when I feel like fucking shit and I'm scared for my life. So I don't know, what do you want to share around that? And how have you moved from the depths? Again and again, right? You know what's funny? It's

Speaker 3: 20:17

different answer to what I think I would say. And it's being realistic, which is super strange for me to say. But I'm going to explain why I'm saying it. I think what helped me was just this real moment. Of what are the facts? Okay, Adriana, you are unwell.

Speaker 2: 20:32

Mm-Hmm.

Speaker 3: 20:33

That is the very little experience. I see a lot of people most delude themselves and be like, think you know that I'm no. In that moment, that actually didn't make any sense. Okay. You've been unwell for a really long time. That's a really big fear for you. Fear. Interesting. What's currently going on? Okay. You're living in a house with mold. Mild illness is very real. Your limbs hurt. That's pretty confronting. Okay. Interesting. Now, what are we doing about it? So I think for me, that's where the realistic came in. Okay. We hired an incredible holistic health coach with beliefs that we have, because there's certain beliefs and values we hold. So did they match them? Yes. Amazing. So we hired them and we set on the path. And once I think we had that in motion, we almost. We're feeling better because we knew we were doing something in the physical reality.

Speaker 2: 21:26

Yes.

Speaker 3: 21:29

And then there was the energetic component, okay, what do I need to look at? Obviously, this is what I do for work. It's what we do. We can look at this. So the cows come home, but I tried not to look at it obsessively. I just really was like, okay, what do I need to know from this? What are the energetic components that are keeping me in my current state of being that need to be felt expressed or made aware? And that. Or it's a path, a map, if you will.

Speaker: 21:56

Love it so much. And one of the cards in my Dream Makers deck, which we'll pull before before we wrap up the the episode is it's time to get real with yourself and the people around you about where you're at. And I just feel that I feel that to my core and I love your response to this so much because I think I was listening to, oh God, I'm going to say 10 things, but I was listening to something this morning, Stephen Bartlett. I think everyone's talking about him at the moment. That's the dude who's CEO, Diary of a CEO. Is that the, that's the same guy? Yep. He's just talking about belief and we can't like we can't actually convince ourselves to believe something that at our core. We don't believe. Listen to it once. I hope I explained that. All right and and so just giving yourself mantras or affirmations like I am well and everything is good. And the things. It washes over us, but we really at our core don't believe that. And I think wherever we are in our life, in our business, with our health, with our family, the moment that we can get to the facts. Then we take a lot of the fear out. There's still, fear is still there, right? But we dissipate it and, and take some of the power out of that. But when we can get real with ourselves and others about where we're at, then we have a bouncing off point. So in your, in your story, you're like, this is my current landscape. This is how I'm feeling in my body. This is what's happening in my home. This is misalignment. But then it's easier to be like, Oh, now I can do something about it. And you so beautifully, like we realized that something had to change. And then we brought in support crew. Boom, right? And I'm, I have my example of that at the moment is I'm learning to run people laugh at me when I say, what do you mean you're learning to run? Doesn't everyone know how to run? I'm like, yeah, but I'm learning to run. I'm learning to run in a way that's looking after my body. I'm learning to run in a way that is. Sustainable for my body because not only do I want to hit my goal of being a runner three Ks three days a week, but I also want my body to feel good. And I want to start to understand how I can care for my body in this sense of longevity and having the energy. I want to be the mom and the businesswoman, the creator and everything that I want to be. And I have wanted to run for such a long period of time, but met resistance, resistance, resistance. And I was like. It's time to get someone to help me. This is my bouncing off point. My body is hurting me. I'm not moving the way I want to move. I'm hearing all of the things that are coming through it's time to do something different. But rather than once again, trying to figure it out on my own, I'm like, Support crew. Get someone in to help me. And I have this amazing run coach, Katie 180. And that's so helpful. And she also has aligned values like you explained. I've found someone who can help me in a way that really works for me. And then it's, you talked about being in motion, like boom, boom, boom. I don't think we need all the answers. I think we need to see ourself in motion. We see ourselves in motion. It's okay, cool. I'm back in the arena. I am. I am. I'm not a victim to this. I'm making a decision about this is the current state of play and I'm doing something about it.

Speaker 3: 25:17

That's it. That's 100 percent and even, what I'm wearing right now coming out of the depth of that, it's the same thing. It's okay, back in momentum, what's happening? Let's just get things in motion again. We don't know all the answers yet. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker: 25:31

Do you get excited? I just think you shift out of panic and into excitement or out of fear and into excitement. And this excited energy is where it's at because all we need to do is see ourself in motion, taking action, taking it seriously, doing something about it, getting real with ourselves and the people around us, actually honoring our heart, our values, our vision, the things that matter to us. And then that's in a really simplified way, all we have to do is get into motion, see it, celebrate it, do more of it. And then this momentum starts to build and you're like, I'm back in a realm where I feel excited about who I am and where I'm going. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 26:14

And I even feel like when you start that motion, when someone starts that momentum, it's okay to feel neutral.

Speaker 2: 26:21

I feel like

Speaker 3: 26:22

I was so scared at the beginning because I was like, why aren't I excited yet? Why do I still not give a shit? And I was like, No. Okay. I'm going to let myself just be neutral until that time comes. And it helped me be in momentum, no matter what, instead of need the excitement. And circumstantially I was like, okay, I feel neutral right now, but it's okay. It's going to come back. I'm going to feel alive again. And you're feeling it now. Yeah, and it's day in, day out. We're in the middle of a really big current protocol detox from everything. So there's some days where I'm like, mate, I just want to be back a hundred percent all the time.

Speaker: 26:59

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 26:59

So it's, it's still learning and being okay with the ebb and the flow, the ebb and the flow.

Speaker: 27:05

Amazing babe. So tell us a little bit about, so you've had the ride, a big ride this year, lots of change personally, you've, you've moved home, you've moved a new location, and what I saw on IG the other day is that you're rebirthing a product based business. Tell us about that babe.

Speaker 3: 27:27

Because why not? Because why not? So funny, Greg's you really are an entrepreneur at your core, aren't you? I'm like, I can't help it. It just, it breathes life into me. So gosh, it was probably like two years ago where I got this nudge, and it was like, and that's how I live my life. It's very, very nudges based. And the nudge was like, Bring back Mickey Rose. Mickey Rose is the name of the product based business. And I was like, that sounds mental. And it's literally my first thought, but every time I thought about it, I was like, so excited and super lit up, like when your eyeballs are just like, And I was like, all right, I'll look into it. So about 18 months ago, I looked into it and then I was like, it's going to cost a lot of fashion labels and, pretty not not cheap, put it that way. And I was going to cost so maybe we should, maybe we shouldn't, maybe we shouldn't. And I thought. What got me to all the success I've experienced so far in my life in the last, 10, 11 years of being an entrepreneur doing shit that made no sense. And I was like, okay, okay, babes, I hear you. So it's quite a long process, the fashion world. You find a factory, you make the garments, you pay for them, they got to get made, they got to get quality check, they got to get shipped to you. So that took a while. And then the shipment came in the middle of us navigating all this Health stuff. I was like looking at all this stuff and I was like, mate, you are wild. So I held off a little bit because you can do anything, but you can't always do everything at once. And I'm a big believer of that. So we actually held off and then the stock is actually behind me in this cupboard. And then last week, I think I shared with the world that we're coming back and that the website actually launches goes live next week, which is very exciting and it just felt all like alive. That's the word I felt so bloody excited, even bless my mom. She called me and she's Joanna, is this just me? But I feel so excited. I think I'm emotional. I was like, I love you, mom. And it was such a big part of my life. I ran it four and a half years in my early twenties. Haven't run it for five years. I always forget. I always feel like I'm still in my twenties. I'm always like, oh yeah, time happened. So it was five years ago and it just feels really, really, really, really exciting.

Speaker: 29:56

Yeah, congratulations, babe. Thanks. I often liken birthing a new project or iteration of your business into the world, like birthing a baby. There's just, there's these moments of This is so exciting. This is freaking mental. I can't wait for this to happen. What was I thinking? This is scary. This is taking so much energy. Maybe I should back out, right? Tell us a little bit about just the ride for you because obviously it was happening, at a pivotal moment in your life. But for me, my most favorite thing that you just said is like, What's, asking yourself the question, what's made me so successful over the time? And it's doing shit that doesn't make sense. And, and so therefore you're like, oh, this is my way. Okay, cool. Let's keep going. Were there moments of nah, let's just shove it back in, shove it back in the cupboard. Literally. Send back to to sender.

Speaker 3: 31:00

Totally. I was like, could I just pretend this never happened? It's tens and tens of thousands of dollars to start a label. So it's not, it's not like light work. And I was like, I could just pretend I never spent that money. And my partner's maybe that's not a good idea. Maybe, maybe, maybe you want this. And I think what helped me though, through that rollercoaster that you were referring to is. Patience and what a concept to an entrepreneur because I was like, I want it done yesterday and actually pausing and being like, okay, the stock is here and it's paid for. It's done. There's no backseas. You can't, you can't refund. Doesn't work like that. And what's needed.

Speaker 2: 31:46

It

Speaker 3: 31:46

makes no sense to let anyone know it's here. It makes no sense to feel that pressure right now. We'll just hold off. So we literally moved house and no one knew. I think 5 people knew that it was even a concept and I just trusted that We were going to get in here and it was going to feel really cool. And I remember the day I finally cut open the bloody boxes and I started putting them into the cupboard behind me. And I was really, really, really stoked, like super excited, looking at each one, putting them away and I love it. This is where I. My roots were fashion, and seeing the designs and putting them in order, very me and I had this moment of this is really cool and this is the excitement I want to bring to now sharing it with the world

Speaker: 32:33

and

Speaker 3: 32:33

that's what we did.

Speaker: 32:34

Yeah, I think that excited energy is so, it's palpable for people, right? So what a smart decision to not just bust out. I often do that, not what you're saying, not the patient's fear. I'm like, I'm doing the thing and here it is and I'm excited and then I have to keep up with it. I'm like, Oh my God. I'll take that as a great lesson as well. But I think You know, trusting in yourself. That was a huge moment of trusting in yourself and trusting in the timing. And you've invested a large amount of money and time and energy into this next iteration. It's it makes sense. That obviously no backseas when we're going forward, right? But to do that with a sense of patience, like well bloody done to you. Thank you.

Speaker 3: 33:23

Yes, I agree. And I was the same as you. It didn't used to come naturally to me. And then I was like, I would like this new quality actually. So here we are.

Speaker: 33:34

I'm impressed. Look at us evolving. Look at you evolving and growing. I can't claim that patience yet. So what, what does the future look and feel like now? Because you have two babies in the world. You, you have a service based business, psychic mindset, business coaching, and you have Mickey Rose are they baby clothes, babe? Yeah, they're baby kids clothes. Baby kids clothes. Oh my goodness. My sister's going to have a baby very soon, so I'll get her to have a look. Yeah. So how does that change? How you see the future now and how you manage your precious time and energy.

Speaker 3: 34:18

So I think a big thing I sat with, with Mickey Rose, the kids label is that not that I don't usually recommend this, but really almost bring hobby energy to it. So the energy of a hobby. And the reason I decided on this was because I wanted it still to feel fun and not too serious, even though I recommend all business to feel really fun, but almost to just take that little pressure valve, down a notch and just be like, cool, let's just play. Let's just bring back the original essence. I was 21 when I started. My first business, which was this, and there was a bit of naivety in me, and that worked really well. So it's almost like bringing that back a little bit. Plus, I think it helps in the fashion label that I know what to do. It's something I've tried, tested, done really well before. I understand it really well and that it requires a lot, but it's a different part of my brain. Which I love,

Speaker 2: 35:17

so

Speaker 3: 35:18

I almost see them as like these 2 expressions of me. So sometimes when I'm like, the service based beers, I'm feeling a bit tired, feeling a bit, okay, complete with that. It's actually really cool energy to shift to something else. So my brain actually really thrives. So future me, we are holding on to the fact that that's going to be what drives it and that's going to be where I get that expression, that different type of expression from to be able to manage both and something I think that's really, really important is for a lot of people, and this is me, I'm one of these people, we do really well when we're not so fixated. I can get very, very fixed. So sometimes I noticed when I just had one program, one offering in the one business, it was almost, I was always suffocating it instead of breathing life into it. And life is spaciousness.

Speaker: 36:12

Yeah. I love that. I'm obsessed with spaciousness. We've had, I think, an iteration of this conversation before. I think so much magic arrives in the spaces in between, but I love the way you've described that is, is having. Multiple projects that your heart is deeply passionate about helps you to be in a play playing. You're still a ball of business woman, right? Let's, let's be real about that, but bringing in an energy of play and creativity and curiosity to what you're doing, and it's this is getting my energy now. Boom. Now I'm going to move on to this project. And I'm, I really love that. And And I want to reflect so many people that I have been either membering or been in the dream stream or in conversation with in this year in 2024. There's so many people who are like. I don't want to do the model of business that everybody is telling me that I should be doing. And I, I have these projects. I have these things that are busting to come out of me into the world, but the world tells me I need to do one thing and pick a niche and go down that path. And here's the system. And, and I don't want to do that. And that's, so many of the people I'm working with in that realm, so that's fun for me because I'm like heart driven all the way, right? What is your heart actually calling you to do? And I love hearing examples of other people who are truly following their heart, even when it doesn't make sense, even when it doesn't make sense to other people, let alone possibly to yourself.

Speaker 3: 37:46

Yes, especially to yourself sometimes.

Speaker: 37:48

Yes,

Speaker 3: 37:49

exactly.

Speaker: 37:50

Yeah, I've made some really big moves and changes in my business and in my life between last year and this year and they don't all make sense to me right now but there's a knowing within me. I'm like, I know I'm making this decision, I'm clear, I make the decision, I get into alignment with my body, says hell yes, hell no to that now, I'm done with that, this is where I'm moving towards but there's still so much to do. dancing in the unknown. So yeah, what are your thoughts about like stepping into the unknown? Yeah. It's a funny

Speaker 3: 38:23

one because I used to be very, I I've oscillated in my life. I used to be really good at it, like in my twenties. And then I think life caught up to me and I was like, must make better, serious decisions. And now I'm finding this like middle ground, so to speak. But I feel like something that has, Has been really important is making like grounded decisions in the change. So I used to, I think you mentioned this before too, pull the trigger really fast. And then I was like, okay, slow down a little bit. Not easy for me all the time. And actually just ground into it a little bit more, like grounded to the decision, understand the decision because change is hard. And. It's scary when you're like, I want to do this thing that makes no sense, but will it work? And then I think something for me, I always ask is this coming from a wound? Is this change coming from a wounded place? Because maybe you, There's a self sabotaging happening. Maybe there's a deep desire to be one way, but you're really scared to be seen. Are you moving away from something far too quickly when actually it just needs staying power? So they're all kind of things I really asked myself to land. Where I want to be in those big moments.

Speaker: 39:38

They are very powerful questions. That's amazing. Is this decision, is this move coming from a wounded place? That is powerful. I think one of my most favorite things is, Asking clarifying questions, right? And helping people to get to that heart of what's essential. So I think that is such a beautiful, powerful question, which I'm definitely going to use for myself and in my future with dreamers as well. So thank you. I think. That feeling of being grounded is something that just feels so vital to me. And I, and I think all the people who I'm in conversation with, they deeply desire that as well. I want to feel grounded in my body, in myself, in my truth, in my heart, in my heart's desires, even though I'm stepping into the unknown, even though I'm making courageous decisions that, I'm not yet 100 percent convinced is going to, Unfold the way I really want it to. I think that is the only way the only way in which to truly create something new is be willing to jump and be willing to leap before, you have to say yes and jump and leap and do the scary thing. And then the next bit of information comes. Is that does that feel relevant for you? A hundred

Speaker 3: 40:51

percent that, especially at the end then the next bit of information comes, I feel like for a lot of us and for a lot of people, it's I want to know the whole picture first,

Speaker 2: 41:00

but

Speaker 3: 41:00

we can't. And once it's in motion, it's something higher than us, whatever we believe in, or our inner selves, it's okay. Here's the next little bit. Okay. Now I'll help you make sense of why you decided that. And you look back on your life and it all makes more sense. Gosh, I have a thousand of those moments, so a hundred percent, I feel like there's so much power in that. And even then being okay with all that decision was average and didn't really go the way I wanted it to. All right, let's shift back this way.

Speaker: 41:33

Yeah, I think allowing ourselves to be in like a place of curiosity and being in the unfolding. I was listening to Esty the Bestie, a little bit of Esty Hicks this morning. After I'd been in the ocean and she's just talking about. Um, being really, how comfortable can you get with being on the journey? Because the truth is you're never going to land where you think you're going to land. And even in, we might achieve a certain outcome, but by the time we've achieved that we're already on another path of expansion for the next brave thing. So I think there's so much in being kind to yourself and actually having a commitment to Enjoying the process. What do you think about that?

Speaker 3: 42:21

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I think it's so tricky at times to learn and embody, but so powerful. And I use it with money all the time. People like, oh, just when I hit this amount, then this will happen. And it's yes. And you're either just going to want to hit that again. Or you're going to be like, all right, I'm ready for more now. And that really showed up in my career with money. I remember hitting my first really big months and, making, having my first big years and being like, Oh, this is awesome. What if I can't do it again? Oh my God. What if I, now I want more, now I want a bigger month. Now I need to show that I can get more money and do more things. So I feel like for me, I had to fall in love with. The rollercoaster and fall in love with the ebb and the flow. And something I actually wrote about on my stories this morning was, how can you act in both when you're in the ebb and when you're in the flow, instead of always just relying on being in the forward flow motion.

Speaker: 43:20

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 43:21

Yeah. Because the reality is we're not. So some, I have a lot of ebbs and I'm like, all right, what is it? What do I need while I'm in this part of the journey?

Speaker: 43:30

Yeah, and I think there are valid and very helpful actions that you can take in both. And I find for me, I do this dream stream call once a week at the beginning of the week, 60 minutes. And the whole purpose of that is to get back in the stream. And it's let's get real and acknowledge the fact that there are ebbs and flows. There are highs and lows. They're like, I've freaking got this. And what in the hell am I doing? But if we can just have this commitment to ourselves, that if we just show up for this one hour, once a week and get back into the stream and have a little bit of shift in energy and a little bit of a shift in perspective and a little bit more clarity and a little bit more power, then that's all we have to do. And then whether we are. Riding high and rolling in the stream or like getting through the trenches one moment at a time, there's a real sense of, I would say, power and creativity and momentum that we create for ourself because we're taking some action that is aligned with our heart regardless.

Speaker 3: 44:40

I love that.

Speaker: 44:40

Yeah. Some action. Exactly. Some action. And sometimes that action is, I need to rest. Sometimes that action is, I need to go and get someone who can help me learn how to run. Sometimes that action is, I need to move out of this house that has, that you said has mold in it. And, there's just every single day. Yes. Keep your your vision, your goals clear around your business, but. It's all interconnected, how we're living, how we're feeling, how we're moving our body. And yeah, I think we're consistently being invited to listen and take action.

Speaker 3: 45:21

Yeah, the listening, the listening, the listening, the listening, and then the trusting of the listening of what you heard. That is so true.

Speaker: 45:29

It's listening and the trusting of the listening. And so again, I think I've asked you this question in one way, but it's coming back, ask it again, Clary in a, with your honed psychic abilities. And I understand it's easier, like for some to, for you to share that reflection for someone versus necessarily for yourself, but anyone just, What are your tips to listen, listening and acting on the, on what you've

Speaker 3: 46:00

heard? Discernment, discernment, discernment. So discernment for me is like that difference between this is the voice of fear or ego or whatever. And this is the fear. This is the voice of my truth. This is the voice of the soft whisper. This is the voice of something within me, of God, whatever you believe in that's higher than you, whatever you believe in that's within you, et cetera. And that's the difference. And then you have that discernment moment

Speaker 2: 46:30

and

Speaker 3: 46:31

practice, practice, practice, practice. Because I think sometimes we think that it's just, we're going to know how to do it. And it takes practice to understand, which is which I'm in the middle of making a really big decision in my current business. And there's so much discerning because I'm hearing different things every hour and I'm like, okay, cool. I'm going to sit with it in silence. Great. I'm going to go write about it in my journal. Great. I'm going to go call a friend and tell her about it. Great. I'm going to do nothing about it for a day. Great. And in that, I start to hear threads. I start to hear the difference between fear and the truth. And maybe you'll still get it wrong. And that's okay. But I think that's where the listening comes into play. And the trust is bigger than you. The trust is, I trust that everything to this moment has led me here, and I trust that that will always

Speaker: 47:25

happen. Thank you. I'm so bloody glad I asked that question. That discernment between the fear and the truth, and they're not just words, it's a practice, and I love how you're Let me sit in silence. Let me receive what's coming through. Let me journal about it. Let me call a friend. Let me call a sister. Let me speak it out loud. But not needing to get into action immediately. It's like being in the space of I've got a decision to make. I do ultimately believe in mental people to make a decision, make the decision right and get into alignment with it. Because only then will you then get clarity and only then will you then get momentum and, and go, Oh yeah, that was a great decision. Oh, hang on a minute. There's something more to this. So I would, I, I never really want people to sit in indecision for too long, but I do think, You're offering such a beautiful gift to people around, just start to bit by bit discern, is this fear? Is this truth? Is this fear? Is this truth? And My, my thought is you would have a sensation or a feeling in your body. That's how it would be for me. How do you do, is that something that happens for you?

Speaker 3: 48:45

It changes for me, which is really interesting. So something I've been playing around with is that neutral feeling I was talking about before and making more from this neutral place, because sometimes I find for me when I'm making a decision that feels too like adrenaline producing or exciting, it feels hard to sustain. Whereas then if I neutral, I get it back to neutral. I can be like, I can follow this through. This was really, really good. So it's almost like a grounded Oh, all right, let's go. Versus a good, I'm leaning forward right now. And I think that's, that's discerning as well. Cause then there's other moments where like the label, Like decisions I'm making in the business now that is purely from this it's like a rush in your heart space, like this gush in your heart of just I feel alive by this. Yes. So it's funny. And I said at the beginning, I'll say contradictions and this is one of them. So it's almost playing with both. And being okay in that both and my, my current spiritual mentor, she's been really helpful in helping me play with both and like almost the malleable, like almost being like, Oh, this is interesting. Use word curious on my favorite words and getting curious about it. And. Letting the unfolding unfold.

Speaker: 50:06

I love that, babe. I feel like there's this big invitation to, we'll just play with everything. Ooh, this is interesting. Ooh, I'm curious about this. And, an invitation to just get closer to yourself and closer to your truth.

Speaker 3: 50:25

And then in that too, I think you're so right. What you said before as well, like take the leap, take the leap, take the leap, take the leap. I don't want anyone to feel misguided. Like I leap like no one's business, but there is so much, sometimes I think then we stay still for too long. Even last night I'm making a big decision and I'm simultaneously messaging everyone on my VIP list. I'm like, would you be open to sending me some feedback on something? Yes, yes, yes. So I woke up to all these people being like, we'd love to give you feedback. Great. We have this new idea. I want to, I want to hear from you. So I'm in the leap at the same time, and that's

Speaker: 51:01

how much power. Yeah, I think there is always some kind of action that you can take. Yes. Yeah. And on that note, I can't believe we just went into a freaking vortex. Did that just go really quickly for you? I just had that moment in my head of I think we're almost at an hour. We're straight on an hour right freaking now. I want to pull a Dream Makers card. Let's see what's here and I might just read it. I might just read it and then see your two cards just jumped out. So let's do that. And then let you give your Interpretation. All right. Number one. It's a choice that squarely sits with you.

Speaker 3: 51:46

Love that.

Speaker: 51:47

Goosebumps all up my legs. Okay. And the other one is. You get to decide what you believe about yourself and what you're capable of. Oof,

Speaker 3: 52:00

that's so funny, I'm giggling because if that doesn't represent what we were just talking about, of I'm in the middle of a decision,

Speaker: 52:09

I don't

Speaker 3: 52:10

know what does.

Speaker 2: 52:11

Yeah,

Speaker: 52:11

there's so much in, in there. Yes, there's discernment. Yes, making, wavering in the spaces in between. But at the end of the day, you're the person who makes a choice. You're the person who makes the decision. It's that choice that squarely sits with you.

Speaker 2: 52:26

And it's

Speaker: 52:27

so much of it comes down to you. Being the decider about what is possible and available for you and making the move to bring that into reality. I love that. They're some great bloody cards. Yeah. I'm obsessed with my cards. I love them so much. Babe, thank you so much for being here with me. It's always beautiful to share heart space with you. So much

Speaker 3: 52:50

fun. This was epic. Thank you a million having me.

Speaker: 52:53

Thank you a million. Is there anything else that you want to share with people? Where can they find you? Any updates? Go for it, babe. You could find

Speaker 3: 53:00

Instagram world, Adriana Loves, I'm sure you'll pop it underneath. And that's where I live. I share lots of things. I reply to lots of things. Lots of psychic stuff going on, lots of business growth stuff going on. And I just want to, pour this soul led mission into more and more people so they can follow their soul's mission as well.

Speaker: 53:18

Amazing, babe. You are amazing. If you could nutshell, what's your one biggest takeaway from this whole conversation that's just unfolded?

Speaker 3: 53:26

Actually, funnily enough, what I was just thinking is that you're really incredible at asking questions and you're really incredible at just uncovering these bits about the journey that are actually really freaking important. So that's actually one of my biggest takeaways thank you for pulling apart those bits because I think conversations like this in journeys what I've journeyed through and a whole lot of other people have too. I just, You can't, you can't put a price on it. It's so valuable to pull apart. There's little intricate moments. That's actually my big takeaway.

Speaker: 54:00

I receive that. Thank you so much, babe. I do think we need to be having these beautiful, open hearted conversations. And I said to you at the beginning, I was like, There's, I'm just dropping in, let's just drop in and have a conversation and see what comes out. So I'm, I'm so pleased and I love you dearly. Thank you for being here. And to everyone listening to the Dream Makers podcast, have an amazing day. You are doing amazing things in the world. And please go and check out Adriana at adriannalux on

54:28

Instagram. Peace out everybody.