Dream Maker Kate Hanson - From Dreamer to Doer: The Power of Commitment with Katie180 (Alt banging title: Time to stop dicking around guys!!)

I had the best podcast conversation with Katie180 for the latest episode of Dream Makers—it's one that's really stuck with me. Katie's got this way of cutting through the BS and hitting you with the truth bombs you need to hear. Like when she said, "Life is short, we get just one chance, time to stop dicking around guys!!" It hit me like a ton of bricks—in the best possible way.

We dove into the nitty-gritty of why we wait around on our dreams, expecting things to magically get easier. But here's the reality check: they won't. We've got to make a decision, commit, and then take action. And that's exactly what Katie's all about.

She's not just about running; she's about moving well and living your best life. We talked about why it's so important to take care of our bodies now, so we can keep chasing our dreams as we get older. Because let's face it, if we're not moving well, those dreams are going to feel a whole lot harder to reach.

One thing I love about Katie is her passion for getting people moving, and moving well. She's not just in it for the miles; she's in it for the long haul. And that's exactly the kind of support we need to turn our dreams into reality.

In the episode, we get real about the struggles—like my journey to become a runner and Katie's goal of completing 51 half marathons by 51. But we also talk about the importance of setting specific goals and holding ourselves accountable, even when things get tough.

So, if you're ready to stop dreaming and start doing, this episode is for you. Join me and Katie180 as we share stories, laughs, and plenty of motivation to get you moving. Because life's too short to wait around—let's make those dreams happen, together.

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Transcript

Claire: 1:04

80, 180, 80, 180, alright, let's do this. Welcome everybody to another episode of the Dream Makers Podcast. I am just fizzing with excitement because I'm here with the legendary Katie 180, Kate Hanson, 180 with Katie. How are you, my friend?

Katie180: 1:24

I'm great, babe. Thank you very much for having me. I am quite excited to be here. So yeah. Let's do it.

Claire: 1:31

Let's do it. I'm excited to be here with you. I love any moment that I get to share heart space with you. So I'm pumped to see what happens in the unfolding of this conversation. You know, this to be true. I never know what's going to happen. We hit record. I've got some notes. I've got some things I want to ask you about. But what I know to be true is you are honestly, Yeah. A heart beaming human, every time I spend time and energy with you, it shifts my energy. So thank you for being a brilliant human in the world. Gratitude.

Katie180: 2:07

Thanks, babe. Thank you. That's yeah, I just. I think that you reflect that out to others. And I think like attracts like most often. So I think, you know, you do that for all of us. So, yeah, I'm happy to hear that that effect happens for you too. Thank you,

Claire: 2:22

Madia. So let's talk about you making my running dreams come true. All

Katie180: 2:31

right, let's start there. So you have had this long held dream, right? Like you want to be a runner. You see yourself in the future as a runner. Yeah, I

Claire: 2:40

see myself in the future as a runner. I like when I do visualizations, when I, when I do like for my business, when I do visualizations in meditations at night, not all of the time, but the person who I am in the future. She's a runner. I have been avoiding this like crazy and you know that.

Katie180: 3:02

Yeah. So I see that resistance and I see your dream and I'm, I'm not helping you achieve the dream really. I'm just sort of literally pointing you in the right direction. I mean, sure. I mean, right. A few programs and whatever, but you have the dream. And you know that the resistance around that means that you need that's the direction you need to go like, you know, that and you will be a runner like I believe everyone can be runners. So I see for you absolute potential. There's no stress with that at all. If you want it, you've got it.

Claire: 3:34

Yeah, I love that so much. And I think that's why I feel so excited about what I'm what I have already stepped into with you. And I was saying to you on a call before that. Even just starting over the last couple of weeks, and I've just been walking in preparation for running. It's already changed so much around my perspective, how I'm taking care of my body and who I'm choosing to become in the process of becoming a runner. So, yeah, I'm really grateful for that. And to be held and supported by someone who knows how to run, like you are a runner, right? Tell us about, tell us about your running history. What made you be a runner? Well,

Katie180: 4:18

I think I had similar vibes. Like I think there was a time, a time, like my whole life, I wanted to run. Like I remember back in the days when people used to read the newspaper, the City Debate running program used to be printed in it. And I was like, yep, I'm doing it this year. And I never ended up doing it. Like it was always something, it was too hard or, you know, massive resistance. And then I came out of. A really big, important relationship like the father of my kids. That relationship ended and I needed to start choosing to do things for myself. And I thought, right, I'm not going to be a gunner anymore. It's going to happen. And I just started, I downloaded a program and I went, I'm going to run the city debate. Like, this is the year it's actually going to happen. And I still, I vividly remember the first night I went to the gym and ran two Ks on the treadmill and I came to work, like two Ks to me now is no big deal. Back then it was massive. And I came to work and I told this guy, David at work, and he was beyond excited. And I feel like those little moments of celebration helped me get to that end point. But it was a real. Line in the sand for me when I started running. I wanted to do it for such a long time. My life hadn't potentially gone in the direction I'd hoped and it was time to meet, you know, really make a stand for what I saw for myself in my future, which was running. And like, honestly, it saved me coming out of that relationship. Running was the thing that saved me. I love it so much. That's a heavy, that's a heavy statement. Wow. Maybe we'll back that up a little bit, but it was is very important.

Claire: 5:55

I, but I can totally resonate with that. I'm like, my business is the thing that saved me. I think we have a lot of records in the sense of needing to restart a life as a single mum with kids. Yeah, yeah. Running was not the thing that saved me. It's going to be the next thing that saves me. It was the structure that I created for myself around my business. So I actually can really got my creaky chair. I can really understand and resonate with that. The thing that I love most, what you just said is I'm not gonna be a gunner anymore. I love that so much. I love it so much because it's like, it's perfect for the Dreamers and DreamMaker conversation because there are, there are dreamers. We are dreamers, and then there are dream makers, and there's such a difference between making a decision, making commitment, getting to action, and choosing to do things differently And yeah. You know, I think we all have different dreams and some are easier than others. We're perfect example of that. It was easier for you to get running and it was easier for me to go and build a business that I loved. And now I have another thing that I've been talking about for too long and it's starting to make me uncomfortable that I've been talking really to myself, to you a couple of times, clearly to my daughter, because she said to me, mum, mum. You have been talking about running for the last few years. Are you gonna do it? Yes.

Katie180: 7:21

Go LC. Love it.

Claire: 7:22

Love it. So, you know, I think for everyone listening what are the things that you're talking about that you're going to do one day? And do you really want to be a gunner? Do you really want to be a gunner? Or are you? I'm going to choose to do something that can actually lead into it.

Katie180: 7:39

Well, I think one of the major things that I stopped my gunner conversations around was once I'd come out of that relationship, I also, I wasn't confident I had any brains or anything, and I had always wanted to be a physiotherapist. And I stopped that gunner conversation by. Giving myself a shot and working quite hard and got into physiotherapy. So coming up to nine years now of study, nearly finished. So that's been quite a good realization of like commitment and focus and resilience over those nine years. But like, I resisted that. Talk about that degree for the rest of my life. Like I'm a very, like I'm at the other end of the spectrum to most of the students for sure, but it doesn't mean I'm going to be offering any less to the patients that I'll be treating in the future. But getting back to running, like I'm pretty keen to share this energy with people. I'm pretty keen to get people running, like thinking back to that time when I started running and, you know, having a few key people support me. I had a running coach and that was absolutely vital for me to get me from where I was to where I went to and where I was able to get to, you know, running trail runs, running marathons, doing ultras, all of those things that were possible. First of all, because I made the decision. But then I had some support and I'm really want to be able to support people like I've got a little bit of a brainchild of a coaching situation going on at the moment and yeah, early days, but it's very exciting and I'm pumped to be able to help you as well.

Claire: 9:12

I would say it's more than a brainchild because you have actual clients that you're coaching to run. I'd say it's an actual child.

Katie180: 9:19

Okay. It's an actual child, but it was a brainchild and I made it a child. Okay. Does that make sense? That

Claire: 9:24

sounds a bit weird. Because the next gunner that you're done with was talking about coaching people with running. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

Katie180: 9:33

we're doing it. I,

Claire: 9:37

I want to talk about I, I love this because I think the energy is there and you, so you talked about make a decision and then create layers of support. That I. Believe in wholeheartedly from a dreamer, dream maker, create your heart driven business and life, learn how to run, whatever it is that is your next the next dream, the next desire, the next thing that you're done with being a gunner around that you are, the https: otter. ai I don't know if I'm saying this correctly, but way more possible if you create layers of support and accountability. Like, I believe that in every core of my being in business, and you know that because you've been part of so many of my programs, like accountability and support and community and creating structure are the things that actually help you step into the dream. And so I knew that and I was like, Katie, I just need your help. I can't talk about this anymore. I can't think about this anymore. I need to just start moving in the direction of being a runner. Please help me. So not only having that Support from you and you cheering me on. I can't even tell you like those like fucking brilliant text messages. I get when I share my little map with you that's really invaluable, but also what's like being so clear to me over the last couple of weeks is you are helping me do this properly. You are helping me build a really solid foundation of support, not only through your support and accountability, but within my body. So can you talk to that a little bit?

Katie180: 11:22

So, can you just ask that again? Like, what do you mean?

Claire: 11:26

Yeah, so, so what I'm seeing is All right, how do I say it this way from a business perspective? Like, we all want to be wildly successful before we've even really started or just when we're starting. Right. And as a runner, making the declaration to you that I need your help. I'm like, I just want to start running and you're like, hang on. We need to do this. Your body, your shoes. We need to like, think about what's happening in your life. And I witnessed myself like, Oh, well, I've got to walk for three weeks. I'm like, how can I call myself a runner if I'm walking and everything I ever do in my life, I likened to business. Cause that's how my brain works. And it's like, Oh, it makes so much sense. It's like when people are starting out or something. Starting a new project or recreating or rebuilding and you, or starting to bring a new dream or iteration of themselves into life. They want to be running before they're walking. They want to be successful before they put the ground in. And so I see that you are supporting me because you sent me to the physio and no CB, here's the plan. We're not going to run just yet. This is why we're walking. So can you talk to that about in terms of the different things we do? to build this solid foundation before I start running.

Katie180: 12:45

Look, absolutely. You can go out there and start running now, but would you love it? No. And would you be hating it tomorrow? Would you have an injury tomorrow? Most likely. So your body can move and run and walk all of those things with your legs. Absolutely. And we're designed to do it. Like, I honestly believe everyone can run, but in order to set yourself up for the best outcome, like you want to be a runner, you don't want to run for a day. You want to be a runner. So in order for you to be a runner, you need to have a foundation for a runner, which means let's check your shoes. Are they making your feet roll in a little bit? Are they? You know, are they supporting your knees to hit the ground properly? Is your biomechanics like working effectively? That's why physio is really helpful. And I'm a very biased physio supporter because I'm nearly a physio myself. The chap that I sent you to see is an absolute expert in Exercise physio and he's absolutely nailed the things that you need more support around from his perspective and having all of that strength in your legs in the right way. So ruling out imbalances makes the life of your running like you're running life so much smoother, so much more enjoyable and way more. likely for you to continue on with it if you're enjoying it.

Claire: 14:06

Yes. Thank you. That's so beautifully described and even though It was, well, I don't think I'm, maybe I'm meeting it with a little bit of resistance. There's still something in me, like, I just want to be the runner. Right. We want to get from zero to a hundred. Like you want the outcome. It's, it's like that when you're wanting to build a business or bring a dream into reality. But I, I really love what you're sharing from a running perspective, as well as from a, any kind of dreammaker perspective is when we can get the foundations in place, whether we're feeling like a more grounded energized, clear, driven human, and we create structure that supports us to sustainably show up in our business, the chance of us not only succeeding, but. And, and I think that's what, we're doing are way more possible. So that's what my brain is always thinking like, how does this relate to? Yeah, dreams come true, but it's, it's been so invaluable to me just getting started. It's helping me go back to these foundations of, you know, You know, it's, and it's Evan in, in Dreamstream. We've been talking so much about energy. I've been like coming back even more into being a custodian of your energy and taking care of your being. Right. So that you can continue to show up and whether that's running and or creating in your business. So I love, I love what you're doing for me. So

Katie180: 15:40

Oh, babes, it is such a pleasure. And do you know what? If the energy vibe, like you are reflecting that back to me with your excitement and that the other guys in the little group that we're, we're starting with in my little group that I've started they're reflecting back their energy to like, I know that they say it's possible, but having someone just encourage and coach and guide is invaluable for them. And I can see that in their responses. So it's a, it's a two way street with energy for sure. I'm getting such a huge amount out of it.

Claire: 16:08

Yeah, I love it, babe. Um, one thing that I want to talk about and we spoke about this last time we were in a mentoring conversation is the difference between believing something's possible and deciding you are doing it. Yeah. Do you notice the difference between like, the people when they come to you to do the work with you, they've got to a point they're like, This is something I really want to do. So I'm deciding to do

Katie180: 16:33

it. Yeah. There's a major difference in the energy. I think there's, there's a couple of people that have come to me that have actioned this plan immediately. They've got goals in mind and they are absolutely, they were right for the picking. So I presented to them at the exact right time and they were ready. So that for me is, is an easy option, I guess, in, with respect to coaching, because they're already primed and ready. The ones that are potentially a little bit more More of my investment, I suppose, is those that are coming to me and going, yeah, I'm interested, but I'm not quite ready just yet. Or maybe in a couple of months. So, those ones have a, like, they're flagging actually, hi, I've got some resistance and you'll need to work a little bit harder to get me on board, but I will be there eventually. And that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying, oh, that person's a no. I'm like, oh, that person's Keep going. I really want to hang out with you, but you've just got to prove to me that you want to work with me too. I think it's like, I've really got to prove myself to these people. So I think the people that have that belief in themselves and are ready to commit now like they're awesome for me because that's, that's like a real energy boost, but the ones that are going to take a bit more focus and attention from me are going to probably be a lot more rewarding in the longterm.

Claire: 17:46

And what would you say to the potential runners out there, dreamer runners? Like me, right? Before we'd had the conversation, before I made the commitment to you. I've been dream, I've been a dreamer about running for a long time. And now I've been thinking about this as I'm out there walking, calling myself a runner before I'm even running. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I am actually living into that identity. So I'm okay with that. But to the people who are out there who are keen but still in resistance, what's your advice to them in terms of how they can get themselves ready to make that decision? Why is it important that they get moving and get running if it's a dream of theirs?

Katie180: 18:33

So if you're being called to run, it's I think that people sort of put up a lot of barriers when they've got this deep seated, deep held dream. And if the longer these dreams go on inside us without us taking action, the actually the harder it is to take that first step. So my advice to those people is don't dream, just do. And I know that flies in the face of dream makers. So maybe that was the wrong word to choose, but stop thinking about it. Take action. Like, just even. Lace up today. Pop your runners on. Go outside. Walk, look at your watch, do a 30 second run and then start walking. Just see how your body feels of that, but only small increments. If you're not a runner and you're starting this out, it's just test your body out. See how it feels, but get out and get moving. Moving is absolute medicine for your body.

Claire: 19:24

Yeah, I love it, babe. And also, I don't think it flies in the face of Dream Makers at all. Like, Dream Makers for me is like, there are dreamers and there are Dream Makers. The Dream Makers are the ones who get up and take some action around it. The other thing I would say is I would invite people to take Effortless action, right? You know, I talk about this all of the time is when you have this big held long dream and you deeply desire it and you've got big resistance. Like I had big resistance. I'm like, but I'm going to have to be running out on the streets. And people are going to see me and I'm going to feel uncomfortable, even not the other people seeing me, but in my body, I'm like, Oh, I'm forever. Like whenever I run, I'm trying to pull my clothes up. Like I listed, you were like, what are your resistances? And I was like, I told you all these things as to why I had been resisting this for so long. The biggest one is me just feeling like I have to get out and it, and it, and it might feel heavy to me. As I get started, like it might be, it's going to be hard is the nutshell. My resistance is this is going to be hard. And I absolutely likened that to someone who's like, I have a vision in my business and I'm dreaming and I'm desiring, and it's a next level version of me. I've never been before, and it's going to be hard. And so the more that you desire it, And you think it's going to be hard, the more you're going to resist it. So my advice to that is how can you take some effortless action? And usually it's a question of who can help me do this, not how am I going to get this done and figure it all out on my own and go from not being a runner at all and dreaming about this forever or whatever it is you're dreaming about in your business. To making it a reality, the effortless action for me is I texted you and I was like, it's time. Yep, that's right. Absolutely. And can we book a coffee date? And that's literally all I did. I was like, done. I was like, in motion. I know this is happening now because I know she's going to hold me accountable. And so that's why I think. Get a mentor, get a coach, create layers of support. And any big dream you have is ask yourself, not how am I going to drag myself through the hard thing? Yeah,

Katie180: 21:44

absolutely. And look, I think you're right. Like running can be hard. And it's those moments where you actually put yourself in the face of some of those hard things that you really want. That's where the growth happens. You know, that's the caterpillar going into the cocoon and coming out a butterfly. Those moments are irreplaceable. And when you're being called to something, even if it's hard, You've got to go for it. These are the things that will change you, particularly if your desire is there and your passion is there. Like, I'm so excited to see you do parkrun. I'm so sorry. You are going to do parkrun and I cannot wait for

Claire: 22:19

it. Yeah, so Katie and I were in the ocean the other day when we were having a conversation about running and my goal, so I just want to clarify, I came in with a really specific goal. I think everyone else has, you know, I think Katie works with people around what their goal is. I just have a very specific goal is that I would like to learn how to be a runner who runs 3Ks three days a week. Right. That's my goal. Don't know why, but I trust it. Right. That's the desire. That's, but it's also for me, I work in measurable, achievable situations. I can see that I want to be the kind of person who's like, Oh, this is getting a bit intense here. I'm going to chuck my runners on and go for a run and clear the energy and move my body. And I just cannot wait to feel that kind of momentum and energy in my body and in my energy body. So I have. That specific goal, we were talking about that in the ocean and you're like, well, we can learn to do that over 3 months. So it's like, you're going to learn to run 3Ks over 3 days over a 3 month period and you're going to start walking and here's what's happening and. And you said, I think that's very achievable in three months and, and then this is what we're going to do as a reward at the end of it. And I thought you were going to say, we're going to go out for lunch. And you said, we're going to run the park run. We are

Katie180: 23:45

going to run the park run and then go out for lunch.

Claire: 23:48

Yeah.

Katie180: 23:52

Yeah. And I don't care if you walk a little bit, but we're going to do it to celebrate because you will be so pumped to be out in a group of other people who are doing the same thing. It will be awesome. I promise you that. A little bit of

Claire: 24:05

a stretch goal, then I'll be able to run five Ks, but my intention more is I just want to go for a run a couple of times a week. Yeah. Yeah.

Katie180: 24:15

Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. And. Actually, I am being quite cheeky with that parkrun stuff. Your goals are your goals and I'm helping you achieve them. But I'm just trying to Let you know that what you're going to be capable of, if you're interested is going to be way more than that at the end of this little three month period and you will be excited.

Claire: 24:37

Sorry. No, that's fine babe. I find that really interesting and again, see that as a reflection in business as well. It's like, and you say this as well, you have a goal and then you keep the goal and you're like, Oh, what's next? And that's what we're forever doing in this kind of evolution of getting clearer and more grounded and more intentional with our business. It's like we set a clear, achievable, probably stretch goal, but before you know it, you take the steps and you get up and you get moving every day and, and take action in micrometres of time. And you bring that into reality. And you're like, Great. What's next? So I can kind of see that from that bigger picture perspective, but I currently find it hard to imagine running more than three days. So anyway, watch this space because Katie update podcast in about a month's time in a month's time. I'll be, cause I have to walk. I had to walk for a couple of weeks. Right. And but in a month's time, when we're back on a podcast, I'll be running. So we'll be able to tell you about that.

Katie180: 25:37

So good. Cannot wait.

Claire: 25:41

Can you tell us a little bit about when we were having coffee last week or the week before you were telling me about your big running goals? Can you tell me about what they are?

Katie180: 25:52

Yeah. So I, when I first started running, I was. Like, I think I, oh yeah, so when I first started running, I looked online at marathons around Australia and you know, my 40th birthday landed on the Gold Coast Marathon and I was like, Oh yeah, cool. So I'll just do that. And that was pretty hardcore because I had to train myself. I didn't have a coach at that time. And I don't, I do not recommend that. But I came away from that thinking marathons are like brutal, but half marathons are cool and maybe I could do 50 of them by the time I'm 50. And so I've had this goal for quite some time and I have sort of stretched it out a little bit to 51 by 51, but that's only a couple years away because I'm turning 49 this year. So yeah, that's my, that's, I'm sticking to that goal. But, In order to raise some money I was, I do a bit of fundraising for the Bob Brown Foundation as well and earlier this Wow. Last year, earlier last year I was training to do a trail run over in the Tarkine forest in Tassie and to sort of step up the fundraising, I did 21 days of 21 Ks and it was I mean, that was an interesting experience. I know that there was a lot of vibes happening around that time with Ned Brockman and Achana doing their long runs and that inspired me greatly, but I will never, ever, ever do that again. It was great to raise money, so my goals do not include running back to back, but I am certainly, certainly interested in still smashing out my 51 half maras by 51 years of age.

Claire: 27:31

So remarkable, and I have questions around, let's go with the 21 days. Yeah, 21 Ks and 21 days first, and then the 51, 51 ps. See, we all like these like fun around numbers. One of my clients is like, yeah, I'm gonna make 30 4K before I'm 34, like the next 30 4K. So we, I just think set goals at fuel. Fun for you. Yeah. Right? Yes. And that do have a ring around them. But the 21 case. For 21 days. My brain is hurting. You ran 21 Ks. Yeah. Every day. For

Katie180: 28:10

21

Claire: 28:11

days. Okay. Okay. I guess if I could ask you to nutshell, what was the biggest challenge? And the most positive outcome out of that.

Katie180: 28:26

So the positive outcome was I after, so I finished that 21 days and positive outcome was mental fortitude, like frick, but actually in truth, fuck, I can do that. And then also alongside that, I actually, surprisingly, I didn't realize this was going to happen, felt really fit. I knew that that long sort of, I wasn't running fast, no no speed work in those halves, but I felt like my mitochondria in my muscles, which is like your little energy furnaces, they were working optimally. And I felt really good. So by the time we hit Tasmania to do the race, it was like, amazing felt so fit to finish. Like I felt completely awesome. I don't recommend that as a training modality, like half marathons back to back, but it actually was really great. And I, but I think my mental strength was part of the thing that helped that race. Cruise through doing all of that. And like being accountable, I shared it on social media. So I felt like I had to continue on. There were certainly days that were really shit and I couldn't be bothered doing it. And I had massive days of preclinical at uni, so I was having to do like 10Ks in the morning and 11Ks at night. And so those days are really tough as well. But I had a commitment and I had to achieve that commitment. So I was really proud of achieving the thing I set out to do. Day one, it felt like exciting and super achievable. Day 17, I was like, this is absolute BS. I cannot be bothered, but I committed and I finished. So I think the tenacity, I suppose, was something I would celebrate through that time. But yeah, it was like, and this is a little bit of an aside, but I went, I was seeing a doctor at the time and he was like, yeah, just, just be mindful at your age, you might tip yourself over into menopause. And I was like, wow, okay. But I didn't, so that was cool. But there were a few unusual symptoms post that 20, 21 days, but yeah, all good. But yeah, that, that thing can happen when you're in my age group.

Claire: 30:26

Whoa, there's so much in this, but I guess the question I have for you is, what did you need, what was going on in your mind, and what story did you need to tell yourself when you were like, this is complete bullshit? Why did I decide to do this? So yeah, can you tell us like what got you up and moving?

Katie180: 30:51

Well, so first of all, the, this is hard story was superseded by I can do this. So my mind got to that point pretty quick connection with people on social media saying to me and encouraging me was very helpful with that. But the underlying goal that I had at that time was raising money for the Tarkine Rainforest in Tasmania. And That is such an important cause so dear to my heart that that was actually the thing that pulled me through and I think sometimes when you're feeling that low, being able to tap into a cause or a passion that is going to help you through that actually doesn't necessarily rely on other people's opinion or feedback or encouragement is the thing that will pull you through. That was the thing that actually got me up in the morning. Hmm.

Claire: 31:38

I'm so impressed by you. Were there times in, like, I'm imagining mid run even, like A, to get up and go running and, and, you know, lace up and get moving would be rough, but when you're halfway running and having conversations with yourself as well, what did that look like?

Katie180: 31:57

Yeah. So some of the runs had to be at home on the treadmill. So those runs were pretty damn boring. And Yeah, I'll get to like 11, 12 Ks and go, Oh God, but it is literally strategies that you sort of start playing out. Like you start counting steps or you start, you know, thinking of something fun that you can do afterwards. So having those strategies that were fairly well entrenched by halfway through this challenge. Just, just use, use that mental strength just to get over the hump because you know that once you get halfway, actually, you've got less to go than you've already done. So you're on the downhill slide and you can actually do this and you've done it before. You've done it for the last 10 days. You can do this. I'm

Claire: 32:37

so impressed by you, like, I'll be thinking of you running your 21 Ks in 21 days and I'm peaking about getting, getting two Ks and having to run my last, last kilometre. Oh

Katie180: 32:49

my God, I can't wait for that though. That's going to be just as big. It is. It's just as big for you. It's relative. I think it's all

Claire: 32:55

relative. I'm just so impressed. So 21 Ks is a half marathon, right? And you have a goal of 51 before 51. What

Katie180: 33:04

are you up to? Yeah, so I'm not including any of those 21 because they weren't actually events. So I'm just talking about events that I get a bid for and I get a medal from or, you know, that sort of vibe. So I think at this stage, it's 23, so I've got a bit of work to do and I'm not including events that were over and above 21. So there have to be half marathons.

Claire: 33:29

Wow.

Katie180: 33:32

Super fun. So yeah, that's the plan. And yeah, I've picked out races for this year, next year and the year after. So we'll, we'll get there.

Claire: 33:42

And yeah, so you've got the right, you've got the clarity of when those races are to make the numbers up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing babe. And so what did I want to ask you about? Oh, running 51 K, 51 51 half marathons by 51. Like killer. That's killer vibes. Let's talk about wellbeing and longevity and why it matters because. that's pretty amazing to be a 51 year old gun like that. So I know, I know they're kind of together and separate, but you have a a passion. I've had so many conversations with you around why are you even wanting, you know, physio running no booze, all of the, you know, and we can probably have another conversation at another time around the no booze, but There's such a thread that underlies everything around well being. So can you talk about longevity and, and your passion around that babe? Yeah,

Katie180: 34:47

look, I think most of us on a daily basis kind of live as though we're going to be alive forever. Like, I think the choices that we make, we're kind of cruising through, we're getting angry at the traffic, like, actually, we're here for such a short time, and we really need to make the most of that time. Like, I'm very lucky at the moment because I'm doing some work. In a hospital where I'm helping patients that have had strokes and patients that have had other outcomes that are reducing their capacity to move with ease, and it is really impacting upon me that we need to take good care of ourselves now, in order for us to have not only longevity. But beautiful, comfortable ease with longevity, so that we're living well if we're living to an older age. Like, sure, I don't, I don't want to die early. I want to live to a hundred for sure. But I want to live with capacity. I want to be able to move around as I want to. I don't want to be limited by a frame or a wheelchair. And those things are so important. Moving our bodies. It's so important in, you know, oiling, oiling the joints and keeping the muscles strong gives us that chance at having that movement into our, you know, twilight years. Like, I can talk about my mum who, You know, she was always keen to walk when I was a child, but she is so much stronger now than she has ever been. She's doing Pilates three times a week. She walks, she plays petanque. She's super active and she's, I don't know if she's going to be stoked about me admitting this, but she's turning 80 this year and I'm so super impressed with her approach and she will say that it comes a little bit from hearing me talk and the Pilates element has definitely come from our discussions. So looking at longevity. And keeping your body moving is just one of those things that I think is just so important for people to understand and like a little bit, wake up guys, you're not going to be here forever. Don't don't dick around now and you know, waste that beautiful opportunity of health because you'll pay for it in the future. That's, that's how I feel about it.

Claire: 37:00

I want to call the podcast. Don't dig around now. Let's do that. I will admit that being in the conversation with you around the longevity was which what tips me over the edge. That's what made me go, okay. You've got to stop thinking about this. You've got to stop talking about it. Not only do I have the perfect opportunity to reach out and get your support, but my longevity, my well being, my capacity to move and feel good. in my body now, let alone as I age and grow older and get the privilege to grow older, wanting to do that well. So I think it's a really powerful conversation, babe.

Katie180: 37:46

Yeah, I agree. And I think I feel really like, like I said, really lucky that I've had this opportunity to have that reminder in my face when I'm helping these patients. And it is, you know, you wonder if they had taken better care or taken different choices, What might have happened for them at this point in their lives. So it's, yeah, it's very, very much a malleable outcome. Like we can change things we can, and even it's never too late either. But that's another thing like you can start now and still make a massive impact on your future and your future ease of movement. I love that.

Claire: 38:22

So Okay. So to anyone who's listening, no matter what age, it's never too late. What would be your, I don't know, give me three suggestions for people things that will help them move their body well and live better, longer, live better, longer, live longer, better. Yeah. Live better,

Katie180: 38:44

longer. Love that. Walking. Walking. Walking is 100 percent the thing to begin doing if you're not doing anything, it is so easy, we've all got a pair of legs, most of us are using them effectively, but getting out, just even, it doesn't have to be specific runners, you can, you can walk barefoot around the back garden, but doing some movement in that capacity is so important, and I think that that is something that people can change, and they say, you know, do 10, 000 steps, well actually, what's achievable? Adding 15 minutes a day is going to make mass, more massive changes than if you're doing 10, 000 steps every day. Yeah, so if you're doing nothing and you're adding 15 minutes of movement, massive changes. So try that. That would be my first recommendation. You know, there are all these other things that do, And I think social media is great for following along for people that might motivate and inspire you. I honestly do think there's lots of negatives to social media, but I think that's a real positive for people who are trying to change and shift their place and stage in life. But connection with the right people. In real life, so people who are in your corner and who are supportive of that, I think, like an absolute God sent and gold tapping into that is really great. But and then minimizing those things that detract. And I think everyone knows the things that are detracting from them reaching their goals. And For some it is alcohol and for some it is shitty food, you know, there's those things that you know that you are doing that are actually detracting from you achieving the things that you want to achieve. Yeah,

Claire: 40:21

I love that. I would definitely reflect back to you, like, honestly, the things that you've shared are exactly what's helped me Getting out and I mean, I am a walker like I'm a walker anyway, and you know that yeah, and I want to get out to the beach every possible day that I can. But actually, I know the difference between walking with intention. There's a different energy around that as well. So I'm loving that commitment and what I'm finding is most mornings because. Whether I'm doing one on one mentoring or I've got a dream stream call or some podcasts, I'm like, get the kids to school, get a walk in, shift your energy. Do the thing. And I just feel like it just changes my energy, let alone the, the goodness that it does for my physical being. I made the commitment with you. I got obsessed on Tik TOK and looking at other people, like people who are running and what are they eating before they run? And just like bit by bit, you know, just learning along the way. And definitely the connection in real life, having conversations with you, Having conversations with and like, you know, she's, she's learning to, well, she is running and she's, she's got a goal of being a running a marathon and that massively inspired me. So being around other people who have. My goal is not the same as hers, but that's irrelevant, right? That is irrelevant. It's just, there's another person who's excited about running and moving their body. So that sense of building connection and building community. And the big one for me was like, I think you said minimizing the things that detract from you reaching your goal. I have definitely made some changes, like, since we started this pro, I made zero commitment. Like, I, there was nothing in me was saying that I wanted to give up booze or give up sugar or anything like that. It's just, I want to run, I want to move my body. But when I made that commitment with you, I then By not default by choice started to think about what I was eating, starting to think about, well, if I'm going to, because my biggest fear is it's going to be hard, I'm like, yeah, I make it easier for myself. So I was like, I don't want to be dragging around. Booze in my body to go running. I don't want to be dragging around all of that sugar in my body to go running. So yeah, it's just had a ripple effect in other ways. And I've been so much more aware of what I'm consuming and what I'm not consuming and and the thing and trying to get to bed earlier and doing the things that will really help me to. Make the goal easier to

Katie180: 43:07

achieve. Yeah. And I think the expression that pops up in my head is choose your hard, like it's hard to not have a drink with my friends, but actually it's more hard to have a hangover tomorrow morning when I want to run. So it's choose the hard thing that you want and really frame that with the goals. So have that goal overlaying of choosing your heart, and then it really becomes a lot easier and it stops that. Yeah. Bloody decision fatigue, like, you know, do I want to have a drink or do I want to run? Actually, what are your goals? Alright, I want to run. Actually, maybe I don't want to hang out tomorrow. Maybe I want to run with a clear head. Okay, yeah, I won't have a drink. It just reduces all of that bullshit conversation in your head and it gets you aligned again with your goal. So just keeping your goals front of mind, it really, that's a really key thing. I think that's something that you've taught. Yeah. Thank you.

Claire: 43:58

My pleasure. My pleasure. But we've still got, you know, we've all got our things, we have resistance around that. But yeah, I think that has helped massively. Like, let your vision be bigger than your bullshit. You know, that's, I'm going away on this, this weekend to just, Keep writing. So good. The next year, you know, then I'm on to the third iteration now, but it's, it's that same message. Have a clear, strong vision or a clear goal that excites you. That lights you up that you can actually see yourself as that version of you. It's going to inspire you to have, like, have more. Strength in the vision, then you do in the commitment to the bullshit and you know, in this particular example, eating shit and drinking a lot in the pursuit of wanting to be a runner. The vision is stronger because it's exciting as well.

Katie180: 44:48

Yes, absolutely. Yep. For sure. You're tapping into that and it's awesome.

Claire: 44:52

So sweet. We're getting close and eating to wrap up. I would say my question to you is when you think about the mental aspect of running, and we've touched on it in a few different ways in this conversation, but when you, to people who are dreaming about being runners or who are dreaming Runners and want to be more consistent with that for whatever reason, whatever their goals are. When you approach the mental aspect of running such as like motivation and goal setting and overcoming obstacles how do you approach that in your coaching?

Katie180: 45:29

Unpacking the resistance, I think is the thing that's a, it's a really key element. So, you know, understanding where. The runner is at and why there are things that are blocking them with their motivation or with their actually lacing their shoes up and going out. And there's going to be different strategies around answering to all of those little resistances. So if someone's struggling to actually get out the door, then I go to them and we go together and we start doing that. And that becomes an easier process. And then if we. Have people who are like waxing and waning with their motivation, which we chat about that and reasons why and unpacked stripped back to goals, the mental approach, the more you do the run. The more you notice the mental strength, the resilience, the tenacity, the more you run, the more you go, frick, I love that endorphin rush at the end. Let's have some more of that. And it becomes more easy to tap into that more regularly. Yeah, but I think having a coach to unpack where the roadblocks are. To get rid of them or make them smaller or find a different route is really key.

Claire: 46:42

Yeah, beautiful. I love that. And I think there's so much about what's behind the resistance, what's behind the block. Looking at getting real, getting honest, having that conversation. Yeah. Clearing the decks on that, creating a strategy to be able to, despite That resistance gently move forward, be held in that. And I totally agree with you when you start doing the thing more consistently, and I absolutely relate this in business. You build a sense of trust in yourself when you do the thing you say you're going to do. Not only do you realize you're going to live through it if you've got a fear. And that you survive, that you actually get better and better. And it gets easier to do the thing because you're proving to yourself and you're creating your own sense of clarity and certainty around that and building trust. Right. And you get the good feedback. You get like, I just did the thing. It's not even about the outcome. It's how you feel in your body because you just did what we would call like doing the brave thing. Right. Yeah.

Katie180: 47:39

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Building that trust, that self trust for sure. And I think, you know, after that 21 days. Escapade. That was definitely something that I had built. I built trust in myself because I said something out in the world and I honored that to myself because number one, I wanted to show myself I could do it more than I wanted to show everyone else.

Claire: 48:00

Yeah. That's beautiful, babe. And we're bloody done for doing it. And I think there's so much in, you know, sharing your dreams, speaking out loud, creating layers of accountability, but at the end of the day, bringing it back to you. This is a promise I made to myself and your, your capacity to create, to make the dream a reality. So much just comes down to, I am the decider and I trust in myself and I trust in my capacity and I'm going to do the thing. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I'm going to pull us a dream maker card as we wrap up this conversation. What I would ask you now is how are you feeling? Cause he was super nervous about being on the podcast and what's your biggest takeaway from the conversation so far?

Katie180: 48:47

So, yeah, like I was super clunky at the start, but then I loosened up a bit. So like, I'm ready to do another one now. Like if we want to record it now, I'm ready. Let's do it. No, it was good. I, like my first podcast, Frick and biggest takeaway from you is actually like, I'm just, I'm marveling at your experience of this, even though in the early stages of preparation for you to run, like I'm just marveling at how much excitement and how much change has been in your. Experience in light of your commitment to your goal. I'm, I'm just super proud of you. So that's just what I'm yeah, I just wanted to reiterate that.

Claire: 49:25

Thank you, babe. I'm very proud of myself too. And I'm very grateful to have you in my corner. All right. Two cards just jumped out. So. Oh, this is cool. What's the up level from here? And I think for everyone, it's like, where are you at? Yeah. And what are you dreaming about? And what are you going to do about it? What is the next step? What is your next step? And how can you make it effortless? Who do you need to reach out to, to get this baby moving? If you want to run, definitely reach out to Katie 180 and for whatever it is, like create a layer of support and accountability and make that effortless. And that will help you clarify what the up level is from here. And then what are you going to do about it? And then the other card is beautiful green and yellow one. The big win is letting yourself feel the peace and joy now, regardless of any outcomes. Thank you.

Katie180: 50:31

Yeah. Amazing.

Claire: 50:33

Love that. And I love that when I think about running, because when I first started, I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm out here walking, imagine what it's going to be like when I start running and you know, like my head starts going into a bit of a story and I'm finding myself pull myself back and be like, look at me out here. I'm doing the thing. That's all that matters. Yeah. I'm doing it. I'm feeling good for it. I'm feeling good. I don't need to worry about anything. Katie's got the plan. I'm just going to do what she tells me to do and show up for it. And I'm going to have a good time in the

Katie180: 51:04

process. Yeah. And there's a bit of trust going on there, isn't there?

Claire: 51:08

There is a whole lot of trust going on there. Mm, mm, mm. Alright babe, thank you so much for being here. I can't believe we're wrapping this up literally on time. Love you dearly. Look forward to having another conversation and quickly tell people where they can find you and if there's anything else you want them to know.

Katie180: 51:26

So yeah, my handle on Insta is 180 with Katie. So that is the best way to find me, hit me up. And we can certainly take it from there. If you want to start running, I'm your girl.

Claire: 51:37

Boom, boom. All right. Peace out, everybody. Thank you for being here. If you got some gold out of this podcast, please take a screenshot and share it on Instagram. Tag me and Katie, reach out to her if you want a run coach and she's the bloody bomb.com. All right, peace out everybody.